What if:

- you make local chat beacons (which authenticate, detect and show every player in - LOCAL chat - of the current solar system) to be an upgrade which can be purchased and can be anchored in your newly conquered solar systems

- you need to place more than one of this local chat beacons in a solar systems, in order to have a good coverage so you can detect and authenticate automatically any player in that solar systems. This have some flaws because there will be blind spots where you cannot be detected thus you can "disappear from local chat" as you left the solar system.

- you could scan with your covert ops frigate for some blind spots in a solar system, where you can warp in that area and disappear from local, because the local subspace beacon don't have coverage in certain areas (like behind planets, certain space clouds, etc).

- Black Ops ship will have the native ability to see the coverage of the local chat beacons on map and be able to warp to blind spots in order to disappear from local chat for some serious guerrilla action.

Why not go to a wormhole if you want to spend all day scanning systems with cov ops ships and warping to gank people?

Wormholes have very little pvp and the pvp they have is rarely what anyone would consider a good fight. The lack of local has allot to do with that.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but they are not entitled to thier own facts. Fact is wormholes have drastically less pvp per pilot and per system than low and null sec.

But what you consider is a bad choice is your opinion. What you call good choices is probably what I would call tedious risk aversion for fear of losing your ship. @ 90% of eve thinks that makes for boring gameplay so they stay out of wormholes.

I am concerned by this.

Why replace local? It's an essential tool for any pilots in Eve. By fundimentally changing it you fundimentally change everything, and create and even bigger barrier to movement from High Sec to Null Sec.

Additionally any update that boosts defense that also doesn't boost offense is something to be avoided. The balance of power in null sec needs to be fluid. Without that then the end game just falls apart.

We are now in the part of "nerf local thread" where lots of carebears tell us how pvp works and why nerfing local will only make pvp (something they don't actually do) better.

I do not consider calling someone a carebear an attack. Its just that you play the game different than pvpers.

Is this you?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=43276

There are ways to manage AFK cloaking, it can be problematic but it's it's a question of uncertainty for a few people some of the time and uncertainty for almost all people almost all the time. I don't view this as fixing the problem, but merely shifting the burden from one group to another.

Pointing out that he has no experience in pvp and therefore has little understanding of how local works to promote pvp is not a personal attack. Iits just a fact. Its also a fact that the nerf local threads are almost always supported by people who have very little pvp experience other than a few whose killboards are full of ganking transports and pve ships.

Again this is not a personal attack it is just pointing out a fact. look for yourself.

this is not a nerf local thread.

- you could scan with your covert ops frigate for some blind spots in a solar system, where you can warp in that area and disappear from local, because the local subspace beacon don't have coverage in certain areas (like behind planets, certain space clouds, etc).

- Black Ops ship will have the native ability to see the coverage of the local chat beacons on map and be able to warp to blind spots in order to disappear from local chat for some serious guerrilla action.

I have learned that when people are in local it means almost nothing unless they are also on scan or on grid. It was amazing to me how much I DIDNT rely on local for good intel after that. The exception being for local spikes (goes from 2 to 20) and then I know to GTFO...but if not for local, I would see a mess of ships on scan before they landed anyway...

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